I think I lost a day somewhere this week; I can't believe tomorrow is Christmas Eve! Tomorrow morning we will be heading south of Indianapolis to spend some time with my parents and my sister's family. In the afternoon we will make the 2 hour trek back up north so I can prepare for our Christmas Eve service at 7PM. (FFC peeps you won't want to miss this communion and candlelight service - invite your friends and family) I'm praying that the temperature warms up a bit so that this ice begins to melt, otherwise our 2 hour trip will turn into a 4 hour nightmare.
Will you and your family be traveling Christmas Eve or Christmas Day?
No traveling for us! Just good 'ol Muncie, Farmland and Winchester.
ReplyDeleteBe careful tomorrow. Man, its slick out!
PK,
ReplyDeleteHope you all have a great tiem, but bee careful. See ya tomorrow night.
communion? real communion??? wow, what has happened to the Quaker church? (Just kidding). Hope you have a great Christmas celebration.
ReplyDeleteI am looking forward to the Christmas eve service! We travel to union City and back to Muncie on Cmas day, but that is it! No major trips for us! Wahoo!!!
ReplyDeleteLauren and Mark are arriving sometime today. They are going to Lauren's dad's for Christmas Eve. She is spending the night with me and Mark will rejoin us tomorrow. Not sure if I will be able to attend the services tonight or not :( but I am pretty sure Jim and his girls are planning on it.
ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas to the Sorensens!!!
Our Christmas Day will be a quiet one at home. Friday we are traveling to Huntington to be with Stacey's family. Then on Sunday we will have Christmas with my family. Hope your family has a wonderful Christmas!
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ReplyDeleteYes sir, real communion. We are a bit of an oddity in our 'Quaker neck of the woods'. :-)
V of T- what are you talking about? And, more importantly, what an arrogant statement to make and still hide behind a title. Shame on you for such a cowardly barb without showing your "face". If you posted this insult on my blog without any proof, but simply an insult, I would have deleted it already. Shame on you.
ReplyDeleteYou should study your Friends' history and read George Fox's Journal.
ReplyDeleteKris, your choice is wise, but may I simply make a comment on this? V of T- I AM a Quaker pastor, I HAVE read and studied all of the history and teaching of the Quaker church, but above all of that I AM a Christ follower first of all. His word, the Bible, takes top priority in my life and doctrine, and even rules over the theology of man, as good as it may be. I will defer to the word of God as my direction over any theology, and I believe that is what Kris has done. If you want to discuss this further then have the courage to leave your name and let's have a real discussion on theology. I would venture that you would disappear very quickly for lack of anything to say. Ok, Kris, thanks for letting me comment on this. I will not go further without a real person do dialogue with.
ReplyDeleteKris, I hope you and your family have a great holiday season.
Thanks for your comments Mike. I have no problem if you and V of T would like to continue your dialog using this forum. But I will leave that to the two of you.
ReplyDeleteWe had a great Christmas and are looking forward to the new year. Blessings to you and your family.
Friend Nancy Bieber, in her Pendle Hill pamphlet, speaks my mind when she writes,
ReplyDelete"Quakers, from their beginnings in seventeenth-century Britain, have eschewed the outer acts. Early Friends dealt with the Catholic, Anglican, and non-Conformist sacraments of their day by declaring them simply no longer necessary.
"We live, George Fox said, in a time of new covenant when the old forms are no longer needed. The living Christ is already present and within us.
"In 1676, Robert Barclay wrote in his classic Apology that 'we are certain that the day has dawned in which God has risen and dismissed all those ceremonies and rites. He is to be worshipped only in Spirit'.
"While Barclay urged tolerance to those who still 'indulged' in Communion, his contemporary, Isaac Penington, advised friends to 'keep steadfast in that holy testimony to keep from outward and dead knowledge, and out of dead practices and worships after man's own conceivings into an inward principle, and into worship in spirit and truth'."
Mike, how can you be a "Quaker pastor"? Don't you currently serve Crossroads Bible Church which is a non-denominational Bible teaching and preaching ministry located in Double Oak, Texas?
ReplyDeleteIf so, then you are not a Quaker pastor. You may be a Quaker minister if you're recorded, but not a Quaker pastor.
V of T- when you come out from behind the "mask" we will talk, until then I won't answer your questions.....I won't respond to annonymous comments. You can shoot from behind your "mask" if you wish, but I won't "play".
ReplyDeleteQuit calling him V of T! He can be the voice of Barclay, Fox, or any other "Friend" but he's not the voice of truth. Last time I checked Fox and Barclay weren't inspired and the Word of God is. There are far too many truths from the Bible that would support communion and baptism. The problem with the Friends Church and the Voice of Treason is that they place more faith in their god's, Fox and Barclay, and practically no faith in the one true God!
ReplyDeletegreat observation, Pink. I agree, thanks....and so I won't refer to him this way again. Let's see if he/she has the courage to reveal himself/herself and honestly discuss what the BIBLE says...as you mention that is our source of truth, not Fox or any other man...well said. Thanks for jumping in.....
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ReplyDeleteLet me be clear, I am not a Quaker and I am not a member of the religious society of friends. The word religious sums up the reason why I am not and will never be "recorded" in the friends church. I am a Christ follower, not a Fox follower, Barclay follower, Wesley follower, Calvin follower, or any follower of man. To be a Christ follower is to be a Truth follower. To be religious is to be a Pharisee. To make up a set of rules based on what man did or didn't do or how man abused symbols in the past is walking away from what God wants and walking towards what man thinks is best. That's sad. The "religious society of friends" lost it's focus long ago. Within the context of theology "God talk" they have traded true theology for Foxology. I will rarely talk to a "true quaker" and not spend most of the conversation with them telling me that I'm wrong because of what Fox said. Fox is god to the "religious society of friends".
ReplyDeleteI will not make apologies for asking God to use me to bring glory to Himself in any church that I serve in. Every group of believers needs believers, like Kris, who emphasizes Christ and not man. I hope that no matter what congregation God calls me to that I can stand for Him and not for any man.
I also believe that God can use symbols to bring glory to Himself. Especially symbols that were partaken of by Christ. Jesus was baptized with water, why in the world would I not want to be baptized with water as a symbol of my new life with Him. Jesus said about communion, "Do this in remembrance of me", why in the world would i not want to obey?!? Because Fox said so? You brood of vipers!!!